Discussions about Hiring and Hiring Practices

[GrannyMo]

Originally Posted by silvia8917

I don't hire people who are mute because I'm afraid they may not actually be playing at that moment.

Most of the time if they're mute, they've become fearful that if they say anything about wanting a job they'll be considered "beggers". Try it sometime; send a hire request to someone whose avatar is just standing there looking cute, and see how fast you get a response.

I have a hiring test of my own. If they're able to use a mouse, and can demonstrate that by clicking to accept my hiring request, the job is theirs. I don't care what they say or don't say in the MP. And if the job doesn't work out (i.e., they leave the farm for whatever reason) I go hire someone else.

The crops get harvested and the fields plowed regardless of who does them.

[silvia8917]

Originally Posted by GrannyMo

Most of the time if they're mute, they've become fearful that if they say anything about wanting a job they'll be considered "beggers". Try it sometime; send a hire request to someone whose avatar is just standing there looking cute, and see how fast you get a response.

I have a hiring test of my own. If they're able to use a mouse, and can demonstrate that by clicking to accept my hiring request, the job is theirs. I don't care what they say or don't say in the MP. And if the job doesn't work out (i.e., they leave the farm for whatever reason) I go hire someone else.

The crops get harvested and the fields plowed regardless of who does them.

I don't really see why they will become fearful to say even one sentence. If even saying one sentence / responding to a question posted by another player could be considered begging, the chat function would be pretty useless. I don't mind employees leaving the work in the middle, either; I'm just of the mind that work is available to people who seek them appropriately. There're surely people who find silently waiting agreeable, but they're not the type of workers I prefer.

[ElkRiverRancher]

Originally Posted by silvia8917

There're surely people who find silently waiting agreeable, but they're not the type of workers I prefer.

I agree, Silvia ... the game is not much fun with non-communicative players. That style suits Farmville better, I think! lol Still, I know that many players don't type, so I try not to be bothered if folks don't really chat much, once they're hired.

What will get someone knocked off my buddy list is sending me one of those 'chain' note messages, 'send this note to everyone on your buddy list, and FT will give you a million coins' nonsense, or the 'ignore the player (fill in name), they will infect your pc with a virus!!!' Any player that stupid is not a player I want to be on my farm! lol

[GrannyMo]

Originally Posted by ElkRiverRancher

I agree, Silvia ... the game is not much fun with non-communicative players. That style suits Farmville better, I think! lol Still, I know that many players don't type, so I try not to be bothered if folks don't really chat much, once they're hired.

Well, that's nice of you. Trying not to be bothered, I mean.

But consider this: For many players, it's rather difficult to "chat" while also doing the job you hired them to do. Some -- l'm one -- find it easier to harvest/plow in full-screen. Chat's disabled there. I do pop out of full-screen when the job is done, thank the farmer, and sometimes even comment on something I like about their farm. But chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

That particular style of "non-communication" doesn't suit FV, either, because there's NO real-time social interaction there whatsoever. They may both be farm games, but on that aspect of game play you're attempting to compare apples to oranges. Or making huge assumptions about why some hired workers don't chat much. Or both.

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

What will get someone knocked off my buddy list is sending me one of those 'chain' note messages, 'send this note to everyone on your buddy list, and FT will give you a million coins' nonsense, or the 'ignore the player (fill in name), they will infect your pc with a virus!!!' Any player that stupid is not a player I want to be on my farm! lol

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

[~Farmer Tom~]

sometimes? I hire two people instead of just one

[silvia8917]

Originally Posted by GrannyMo

Well, that's nice of you. Trying not to be bothered, I mean.

But consider this: For many players, it's rather difficult to "chat" while also doing the job you hired them to do. Some -- l'm one -- find it easier to harvest/plow in full-screen. Chat's disabled there. I do pop out of full-screen when the job is done, thank the farmer, and sometimes even comment on something I like about their farm. But chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

That particular style of "non-communication" doesn't suit FV, either, because there's NO real-time social interaction there whatsoever. They may both be farm games, but on that aspect of game play you're attempting to compare apples to oranges. Or making huge assumptions about why some hired workers don't chat much. Or both.

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

Am I an "advocate of communication" just because I demand one reply before hiring? As far as I can remember, we're just talking about things before we hire. The chatting part is merely an observed phenomenon that people replying to hiring quizzes are usually more chatty.

And it's not conversation I want, actually. I just want to make sure that I hire someone who's really looking for work, and will quickly reply to my request. I don't find waiting for a reply interesting, though it may be viewed differently by others.

They can totally just answer my one question, get hired, go to my farm and immediately go full-screen. Finishing the job and leaving before saying "thank you" is a bit rude, but then I can't possibly control that, so I never mind.

Actually there's no way to control what a farmer does AFTER the hiring request, be it chatty, mute, going full-screen, neglecting trees, snatching work, or leaving the work in the middle. The ignore button is the most that we can do. So discussing the preference AFTER hiring is pretty futile.

But there are more choices we can make BEFORE hiring. Randomly picking just anybody is a choice, not picking people who don't reply to direct questions is a choice, hiring people who are proactive enough to answer "trivia quizzes" is another choice. There are different types of employees and different types of employers. That's all.

By the way, I reply people who send me chain messages with something like "now you've sent the message do you get what you've been promised?" I never get any answer back. LOL

[ElkRiverRancher]

Originally Posted by GrannyMo

chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

Yes, I suppose for some, it is a real challenge to actually stop for a moment and reply to an inquiry or comment by the hiring farmer. Happily, for those, being in a hurry to get the job done, and 'get out of there', is certainly one way to play the game; no doubt there are hiring farmers out there who just want the job done as fast as possible.

Originally Posted by GrannyMo

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

I frequent the inn, but not for hiring, only for camaraderie. If you don't mind (and even if you do ... ), I'll have conversation where, and when, I choose. Those at the marketplace who care to converse, will - those who do not, won't. Seems simple enough, to me - although I'll allow that for some, it might be a difficult concept to grasp: that some players might enjoy the interaction of a hiring process that includes communicating beyond, 'Hire me, hire me, hire me', or beyond just standing around waiting to be selected. For those so inclined, there is always the 'ignore' option.

Originally Posted by GrannyMo

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

You can suppose whatever you choose, but no, I don't ignore the 'chain' messages. I reply to the sender, advising them that such 'chain' messages have a specific purpose, by their creators - that purpose is to overwhelm, as often as possible, the FT server, just as it is the same intent when such creators 'spam' your email. I advise such 'hoax-naive' players that when they have any doubts about the authenticity of messages received, they need only visit the forums, for advice. It might not be stupidity, to 'believe' that FT is going to give you $500,000 'cash' and advance you automatically to level 60 if you 'send this message to everyone on your buddy list'; but, to me, it certainly does suggest a lack of ..... good sense. It's my prerogative to remove 'buddies' lacking what I consider 'good sense', with or without an explanation, no?